To 资 and 民

2012年7月29日 | 标签:

目前无法和你们通过留言讨论那些问题了,发现只要我的回复里涉及某些字就无法显示,看来打击力度继续加大

To 资

我非常理解彭晓芸的那种痛苦,真希望你在留言前看看各方的言论

“从他打李开复的时候被李反击之后消声我就开始讨厌他的这种打假方式”

你肯定没有继续关注过这个事件的发展

人生导师李开复夸大甚至伪造自己的经历,最终以道歉收场,如果看到下面的结局你还会讨厌方吗?(估计你还会讨厌的 ^_^)

http://news.sohu.com/20111201/n327484160.shtml

《南方周末》也曾经为此做过一个专题

http://www.infzm.com/content/65594

关于独唱团为何被解散,自己用关键词检索看看

关于需不需要一个骗子的ID来唤醒民众,我不再和你讨论,我已经阐明了我的立场

还有个倒韩先锋网,愿看就看,不看也不会逼着你看,只是不愿看到掌握那点背景知识就到这儿辩论,否则我会被累死的,不但辩论,还要扫盲。我还有固定的职业,不像方舟子可以专业打假

http://www.daohan.org/

To 民

方和司马是朋友,基于2人都是反伪科学的,司马当年和胡万林在终南山斗法的故事不知你知否?

但方曾明确表示他并不赞同司马的政治观点,89那年,方在科大,后来有许多回忆文章,还是不错的

在我看来,方并没有支持吴法天的观点,但一个文明社会,人有表达自己观点的自由,这是言论自由的最基本内容,不同意别人的观点就打人是不对的,燕云还行,打人后承认,被关了5天;艾胖就不对了,打过人,第二天警察电话问他,他还否认,不是男人

  1. 民老头
    2012年7月29日23:47

    人钻了牛角尖是很麻烦的。我看了好多视频,没看见艾胖打人,我看见他举手作打人状,那时他俩隔着好远呢。如果你看到了艾胖打人的镜头,一定别忘了给个链接,我挺关心这事。艾胖连天朝政府都得罪,你倒觉得他不是男人,什么眼神啊?无法天多次和人约架又不敢去,这次约个女的,真是男人。司马南早期斗气功师我都知道,很欣赏他,直到近年来他华丽变身,成为毛粪,为王立军薄熙来捧臭脚,我才看清他投机分子的可耻面目。你不会因为同为倒韩派,就支持无法天吧?

  2. yanhu
    2012年7月30日06:34

    @民老头

    打人图片:

    http://photo.weibo.com/1195403385/talbum/detail/photo_id/3465681410455095

    马上去上班,没时间继续讨论,晚上有空再聊

  3. yanhu
    2012年7月30日06:41
  4. Alfa
    2012年7月30日06:47

    还有这样的事情啊,我来测试一下,韩寒是个敏感词

  5. Alfa
    2012年7月30日06:51

    还能显示呀,敏感词是哪一个?据说泡网现在的管理层有很多个了,空间托管方也有全权管理权,所以谁控制谁打击谁删除的,很难分辨了。这就象韩寒的博客,微薄,动不动就删了,然后说是新浪删除的,反正谁也不知道到底是怎么回事。方舟子曾经让韩寒把被屏蔽的后台截一个屏,也没有动静。。。呵呵

  6. yanhu
    2012年7月30日09:42

    @Alfa

    不好意思,是我没说清楚

    《TO 资 and 民》的内容无法在《关于韩寒,如何进行讨论/兼回复留言》里通过留言的方式回复

    甚至我把它放到别的博客评论提交,也发不出去

    只有另开博客了

    ===

    这儿是私人领域,不是海德公园。你没有理由向管理方索要权利,尽管我鄙视这种胆小、龌蹉的行为^_^

  7. yanhu
    2012年7月30日09:55

    @民老头

    再次回复民老头

    我从来没有支持过吴法天的言论,我的爷爷、奶奶、姑姑、伯伯、舅舅的两个儿子都死于那场饥荒,母亲也差点,幸亏在北京上学的另一个舅舅的帮助(这个故事曾经写过,你也看过,http://yanhu.blog.paowang.net/2010/06/29/%e7%a6%bb%e6%a0%a1%e5%80%92%e8%ae%a1%e6%97%b6%e2%80%94%e2%80%94%ef%bc%886%ef%bc%89/),但我支持吴法天说话的权利,无论如何,打人肯定不对

    那张照片你应该看了吧,应该算是打人了吧

    关于艾,曾经一度算是精神领袖了。但缺乏精神领袖的洁身自好,经济上可能有问题,平民百姓搞政治,自己不干净怎行?

    我们的榜样应该是昂山素季、曼德拉、甘地这样温和、干净的人

    自己做了的事,就应该承认,不要像韩寒。记得08年,国安问我:“是你签的吗?”,我回答:“是的”,这才是男人嘛。我不是那个拥有7000万成员的组织的一员,在信仰上,我绝不让步

  8. 资深泡网潜水队员
    2012年7月30日15:57

    yanhu,最后一次回你了:
    首先,向你道歉,我没有完整看完质疑李开复的事件,我是看到一半因为不喜欢方舟子的打假方式,没看下去,这件事最后雷声大,雨点小的结局也证明了我认为方舟子是选择性打假的观点。
    独唱团怎么解散的,大家应该都清楚,提这茬只是想表明我们面对着什么才是真正的黑恶势力。
    立场问题咱们确实没必要讨论了,大家都是成年人。另外,我想说的是,在没有确凿的证据面前,别骗子长骗子短的称呼,侵犯名誉了,我在你博文里提到方舟子就骂他方傻逼估计对你这个挺方的人来说也是一件无法接受的事情吧。
    你提到的这个倒韩先锋网进去浏览了,没法看啊,纯粹是为了倒韩而倒韩,和乌有之乡性质一样啊,你这么一个有精神洁癖的并号称反对独裁政权的人,你能理解乌有之乡的观点吗?看的下去吗?
    我也有固定职业的,每天也奔波讨生活的,虽然没有什么背景知识,专业知识,但我相信我观察某些问题的角度,会比极端偏执的人要好的多的多,不信?咱们走着看。

  9. yanhu
    2012年7月30日20:36

    @资深泡网潜水队员

    没想到会有这样一个结局

    闹得不欢而散

    都休息休息吧

  10. Alfa
    2012年7月31日05:40

    @yanhu

    虽然不是一件什么大不了的事,但是也顺便告诉你一下,我也碰到和你一样的问题了。当然我也不常写,所以意义不大。

    那个倒韩先锋网我也从来不看的,这样的名字有一种暴虐之气,乌有之乡当然也不看。

    我不因为倒韩而倒韩,韩寒说作家不能自证,我觉得,骗子倒是可以自证的,他自己的态度说明了一切。

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